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I have a litter of puppies for sale and after a month of holding one dog, the lady wants her money back?
I am a small scale dog breeder, one litter a year of pomeranian daschund mix puppies. This is my 2nd litter and I had a lady contact me from about 6 hours away stating she wanted the only boy, but she wouldn’t be able to pick him up for about 3 1/2 weeks. I told her I would need at least 1/2 of the total price to hold him and she very happily agreed. Well, we are a few days away from when she was going to come pick him up and she emailed me and said due to uncontrolled circumstances she isn’t going to be able to take the dog after all…but would like me to send her money back.
The money was to hold the dog for her. I have had 2 other people interested since she asked me to hold him, plus the extra food and shots that I have had to pay for….what should I do? I do not want to just take someones money…but now I am not sure that I am going to be able to sell the dog, the older a puppy gets, the more difficult it is trying to find a home for him. I just do not want to loose money on the deal, because she did agree to take him.
I do this as a side job to help pay for unexpected bills…any advice is welcome!
Okay, I am doing this because I love dogs and after talking with MANY MANY people in our area I found out that pure bred dogs are not that interesting to people any more. Both of my dogs are AKC registered and they are a huge part of our family. I didn't have a "non-refundable" in my add, and her and I have just discussed things over the phone.
I feel bad for people that judge so quickly….this isn't a "backyard breeder" case…I love my dogs, they are well cared for, and I hope to grow the business in the future. At the moment I have small children so I didn't want to get carried away with more than two dogs while my kids are young.
And of course I will provide medical care to the puppies! Why wouldn't I…they are at the vet being checked within hours of birthing (Mama too) and are there on a regular basis until they are in their new homes!
yes give her money back. if you can’t feed your pups you don’t need to breed them.
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3 1/2 weeks makes your puppy not so much of a puppy anymore. You should have made her sign something but if there is no paperwork then you should indeed keep at least what it had cost to keep and care for the dog during the time.
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I would tell her that you cannot return the deposit.. because that is what it is.. deposit. There would be no point in a deposit if she gets her money back incase she changes her mind. She put money down to reserve the right to have the dog, but if she changes her mind then she can’t ask for her money back either.That’s her own fault.
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Did you state that the deposit was nonrefundable? If not you are obligated to refund her. Sorry. it’s all part of the dog business. make sure to put nonrefundable when you run ads.
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Unless you had her sign a contract stating that the deposit for the puppy is non refundable, you need to refund her money to her. While i am glad to hear that you are providing medical care for the puppies that you have before getting them homes, it is disheartening to hear that you are doing this as a way to make extra money. You are not considered a small scale breeder, you are in reality what is called a BackYard Breeder. You are not breeding to better a particular breed, you are breeding mutts to make some extra cash. True breeders do not make a profit on their puppies and they do not try to. They breed to better the breed and their dogs are show quality, championship bloodlines, fully vetted, very particular on who gets their puppies and they do not breed mutts.
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A real breeder, and you aren’t one, doesn’t make money off their litters. In fact, litters barely help them to break even on all the money spent to show their dogs and care for them.
My advice would be to fix your dogs and stop breeding mutts. You wouldn’t run into situations like this then. There’s plenty of mutts in the pounds that need a home, no need to purposely make more to add to the slaughter.
Technically you should have had a contract that specified situations like this in the first place, to prevent any legal disputes. She’s not entitled to the money back, but you should have specified that it was a non-refundable deposit on the puppy, and in the case that she could not get the puppy, she could not get the money back.
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You are entitled to keep the money. The reason you had her pay a deposit was just for this reason, she backed out. Keep it, and don’t feel bad. You need to pay for your expenses (shots, vet bills, etc).
In the event you sell the puppy, then you can return her money since you aren’t at a loss. Or if you have to sell it at a discount, then subtract the difference from full price and give her a partial refund.
Good Luck!
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what’s your problem? give her money back.or are you one of those ppl that will put a dog where he is not wanted?
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i think you should explain to her that because you held the puppy, that you had to take care of it,and that you spent the money on the dog that you were going to sell to her, so really you were selling the dog for only half the price,and that the other half was purley to take care of the dog. so she cannot have the refund because you spent it on the puppy you were going to sell to her , plus as you are correct she did agree to it.
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Leaving aside this pom/dachsie thing (which I do not condone under any circumstances – any more than breeding as a side job to help pay for unexpected bills – who makes money from breeding!!!?). If this lady has let you down, I guess you are entitled to take off a 'boarding fee' until you sell the puppy, if your waiting list has vanished. You say you had two other people waiting?
You could, presumably, add the cost of the shots given to the cost to a new buyer?
I'm afraid I don't like all this money, money thing, much as I understand you have been let down.
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Generally, a deposit is non refundable but given you did not have a clear contract in writing, this will not hold up in court. And as a breeder, I would take it as a blessing because the woman truly could not provide for this puppy and would have ended up re-homing it or taking it to a shelter. And breeding mixed breeds is usually not lucrative so just try and find the best home for the puppy and use this experience and learn from it.
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I agree with bluemysti’s answer.
“Loving dogs” is not an excuse for carelessly breeding more mutts into the world. Just because they are AKC registered does not mean they have the standards to produce more puppies – not to mention, MIXED! No good breeder would use their puppies as profit, either.
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I would sit down & make an itemized list of about how much you have spent on the dog. Vet visits, shots, food, & any other costs you have had with it. Deduct that from the money she gave you & refund what is left over, if any is left over.
I do think she is asking too much of you after holding the pup that long & it getting older & less salable. I don’t think your should give her more than 1/2 of what she gave you.
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If you don’t have a contract, I don’t think you have to give the money back. But think about money since she may get mad and do so something about. If you are in a business you have to have a reading contract saying that the deposit will not be returned. However we are talking about money but what about the dog. I think you should take the dog back, maybe this little dog who are in dispute could save you or some body’s life. Trust me a few months won’t do the dog that older, I’m pretty sure you probably get more money for it. Put a picture in the internet.
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Send the lady her money back, and consider this a lesson learned.
In the future, you may want to have them sign an agreement and have things clearly spelled out for a prospective buyer in the event this happens again.
Drop the price of the remaining pup, find it a good home, and move on.
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