November 21, 2008

Mini (or Pocket) Beagles?

I am looking into getting a dog that would be a good pet for my 13 month old daughter. I grew up with dogs, and want her to have the same experience.
I was looking into good companions for kids, and came across an article about Mini (pocket) Beagles. I love Beagles, but right now I don't have a space for a slightly bigger pet… so if a breed of "mini" beagles really exists, it would solve my problems.

Does anyone know anything about this breed? I don't want to get a puppy from a mill that indiscriminately breeds animals to get "signatures" puppies. I cannot find a conclusive answer on the internet.

Any reputable information that you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!
Thanks Mighty, good point, actually.
My daughter is very sweet to animals, actually. Her grandparents have dogs, and she just pets them softly and hugs them. She likes to run with them.
Judgerz: Thank you so much. Great answer. I suspected this "mini" beagle thing to be something to be weary of. Our beloved pet passed away last month, she was a rescued dog, and my daughter's best friend. My girl misses her pet, and so do we. I might just get another mutt from the shelter. Our first was wonderful…

RUNT RUNT RUNT!!!stay away from minis pockets tea cups etc..just a cover

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October 1, 2008

Mrs. Nâ„¢ @ 11:47 am

"Mini" anything is not a breed. They come from idiotic Back Yard Breeders looking to make cash off on ignorant people who don't know any better or just want a designer dog.

Getting a "mini" you will get a sickly runt with health problems out the wazoo.

I suggest if you want a dog for your daughter find a reputable breeder without the word "mini" or "toy" or take her to your local animal shelter and let her pick out a good one for herself. Of course shes young… but you can help her, Im sure she'll fall in love.
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Apricot Lover @ 11:47 am

At her age, you should get an adult larger breed dog. Small children and small dogs/puppies aren't a match.

If you don't have room, and getting a dog is that important, wait until you have the room.
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mightysquirrell @ 11:50 am

I'm not a fan of any of the teacup or mini or pocket anythings. Usually the people who breed for this don't care about anything but the size and the money, with some screwy dogs as a result. It's not really natural for them to be that small anyway.

A beagle is a beagle, though, even if extra small. It's a very high energy dog that needs a lot of exercise. If you are going for a good low-energy, quiet apartment dog that doesn't need a lot of exercise, I'd look at a different breed. There are a lot of small dogs who would fit your needs much better.

PS, the size doesn't really have any indication of how well it will do in an apartment. There are energetic small dogs, and laid back big dogs. I think you should more be searching based on the energy level and temperment of the dog, not the size.
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Rachel-Pit Police-DSMG @ 11:51 am

Don't do it….unless of course you are independantly wealthy and can afford the slew of vet bills that'll be coming your way.

Beagles come in one size only. Anything marketed as a mini or pocket are either mixes, runt-to-runt bred, or both….and that's exactly the unscrupulous breeding you are trying to avoid.

And, you might want to wait a bit too. At 13 months, she's not ready to be taught how to interact with a dog, and training a pup while you have a small child is a ton of work. Not to mention the fact that smaller breeds, being more fragile, tend to be less tolerant of rough tugging and pulling by toddlers. You might want to wait on this a bit.
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BYB's Hate The Truth @ 11:54 am

Mini and pocket beagles are not real breeds. They are a marketing term used by BYB's and puppy mills.

http://clubs.akc.org/NBC/NBC_FAQs.html

Beagles come in Two sizes. 13" and 15". No mini, pocket, toy, or anything like that.

Also, toy breed dogs and toddlers do not mix. They are just far too fragile, and many of them are nippy.

I recommend waiting until your daughter 4-5 and then reconsider.

http://www.petfinder.com
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i have no name @ 11:55 am

RUNT RUNT RUNT!!!stay away from minis pockets tea cups etc..just a cover
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Miff Buster @ 11:56 am

There's NO SUCH THING-beagles *ONLY* come 13 or 15 in.

&….Ten YEARS is old enough to start thinking about a dog-not 13 MONTHS! Get it a teddybear……PLEASE
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bmthespian @ 12:01 pm

There is no such thing as a mini or pocket beagle. They are produced by BYB breeding runt to runt with no concern for health. Beagles come in 2 sizes 15" and under and 13" and under. As far as good with children any breed can be good with children given proper training and socalization . However not dog should ever be left unsupervised with a young child for the safety of both the child and the dog. About the only breeds I wouldn't recommend given your daughters age would be the more fragile small breeds. Small children can be rough without relizing it and could easily injure a more fragile breed of dog.
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*~amy~* @ 12:03 pm

Well they are pretty hard to find i know that….but i would suggest getting a 13 inch Beagle my friend has one and she is so tiny and so sweet here is a picture of one…..

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/lcbryson/IMG_5097.jpg

About the Pocket Beagle::::::

In Medieval times, there was a breed of dog called a Pocket Beagle, which stood 8 to 9 inches. Small enough to fit in a 'pocket'; or saddlebag, they rode along on the hunt. Queen Elizabeth often entertained guest at her royal table by letting her Pocket Beagles cavort amid their plates and cups. This type of beagle is unfortunately extinct, it's genetic lines lost forever, its heritage left to the imagination.

UNTIL……the Queen Elizabeth Pocket Beagle Foundation has recreated that much desired little dog breed. While careful to preserve its inherently beagle nature we minaturized its big beagle size, making a Queen Elizabeth Pocket Beagle the perfect fit for most peoples' busy urban lifestyle.A Queens Beagle is versatile as your companion road mate, cuddley couch potato, or warm bed buddy. They just want to be with you.

Puppies come in a wonderful array of colors and patterns, some never before seen in the realm of beagles. The Queen Elizabeth Pocket Beagle is a recognized breed with the IABCA [International All Breed Canine Association] and has participated in show competition. This makes it the smallest beagle breed in the world! Exciting expansion is ahead as our lines are moving to Europe.

Queens Elizabeth Pocket Beagles mature in two sizes ranging from 5 to 15 lb. as teacups, to 15 to 25 lbs. as toys. This is significantly smaller than the standard beagles' size of 25 to 50 lbs.Demonstrating intelligence and intuition nonparallel by its canine contemporaries, the Queen Elizabeth Pocket Beagle has a sensitive nature and is adoringly devoted to its family. A beagle is the all-American icon of a 'boy's dog' and this miniature breed loves children* and other animals. They seem to know what you want and housetrain easily. They can get most of their exercise needs within the walls of your home. Great for living in town or apartment, they are not as vocal as a standard beagle.

They typically recall easier from exploration than a standard beagle. Easy to maintain, they rarely need grooming or the attention of a veterinarian. Pocket Beagles are registerable with IABCA. They are not recognized by the AKC!

But i would not get one beacuse they are MINI and can have LOTS of health problems!!!!

I hope this helps and good luck!! :)
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Dog Lover, proud Owner of a Black Lab mix and a Purebred Akita and i know lots about dog breeds and my friend has a 13 inch beagle!

Dances With Woofs! @ 12:04 pm

Pocket beagles are simply "runts" or undersized beagles. For a baby of your daughter's age,I would suggest a regular sized beagle.They are not that big and are sturdy enough to withstand a bit of rough handling from a toddler.

To everyone saying that the child is too young to have a dog - obviously,the child is not going to be in charge of the dog! My goodness,I think her mother has enough sense to know that! How many of us grew up with dogs? My parents had a Staffy mix before they had me,and so I had a dog as soon as I was born and have had them ever since.Dogs are wonderful companions for kids,and they can teach the child to be kind to animals.Of course toddlers can be rough,but I think the asker is intelligent enough to know not to let the baby alone with the pup or to let her be too rough with it. And I have had beagles in the house and they are no more destructive than any other dogs IMO.And they adore children.

Edit: Since October is "Adopt a Shelter Dog Month" ,you might want to contact a shelter or beagle rescue.That way,you could find a dog that is already used to kids,housebroken,etc. - and you would be saving a lifel
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Judgerz (Bettalicious) @ 12:14 pm

Hi, I'm the owner of a beagle mix (he's usually my avatar, I'm just currently showing off my passion for Bettas) and I hear this a lot.

There is no such thing as a Pocket Beagle. Beagles come in two sizes, 13 inch and 15 inch. 13 inch beagles are under 13 inches tall, 15 inch beagles are 13-15 inches tall. Supposedly Pocket Beagles are under 12 inches tall. If you'd like a smaller beagle, find a reputable 13 inch beagle breeder. Or even rescue. I found my best friend crying from behind bars.

Don't feel bad about this. Some backyard breeders try their best to make it seem like they truly have a real breed. In fact Queen Elizabeth once had a pack of small beagles she affectionately referred to as Pocket Beagles. Unfortunately there are no good breeders of them today.

I am just warning you, they are very stubborn, have a high prey drive, and are very greedy. You might want to wait until your daughter is a little older since the beagle will require a lot of patience.
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Loki Wolfchild @ 12:15 pm

You've gotten some great answers — just wanted to add:

Be aware that the "Queen Elizabeth Pocket Beagle" is being "recreated" and bred by people with only one criteria: Size. When you breed for one trait to the exclusion of all others, you ignore health problems, type, and temperament.

The people hawking these dogs are selling animals bred from inferior quality Beagles, since no responsible breeder would include their dogs in this endeavor. The result is a small Beagle, yes, but one that has poor genetics, no health clearances, and no attention paid to temperament.
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Angry Y!A Nerd, Meaghan Edwards @ 12:24 pm

There is no such a thing as a pocket beagle. Run, don't walk away, from a breeder trying to tell you otherwise.

Here is where you can find a Beagle, even a smaller sized (13 inch) Beagle:

Your local animals shelter(s)
http://www.dogsindanger.com
http://www.petfinder.org has 7,839 Beagles and Beagle mixes to chose from
http://www.petharbor.com
http://www.adoptapet.com
http://www.beagles-on-the-web.com/adopt/
http://www.barkbytes.com/rescue/beagle.htm
http://www.netpets.com/dogs/dogresc/breeds/dogbea.html
http://clubs.akc.org/NBC/ has breed information, breed rescue and responsible breeder referrals

If you're interested in adopting a dog but live too far away, there is often the option of having a dog transported to you/closer to you. Google "dog rescue transportation."
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10+ years of being a shelter volunteer, pet owner and lifelong animal lover

dances with cats @ 2:25 pm

we had a labrador mix when my kids were that young but he died before they were old enough to really enjoy him. when they got older (about 4 to 5 years old) we wanted another dog but not something so big. we finally got 2 cocker spaniels. "the girls" were just the right size and they had sturdy fat legs for a smaller dog. I got them from a great breeder because of their temperaments- everything was guaranteed and those little dogs were just like having more children around. The kids were always taught how to handle and treat animals so that was never a problem. they were great little dogs, very sweet and loving, always playful and happy, and they have a stout build to them.
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jujukitty @ 6:48 pm

I'm with everyone else who says NOT to get a "pocket" or "mini" anything, as they won't come from a reputable dog breeder. They're a marketing fad only.
I also agree with Meghan on checking breed rescues and shelters if you want a purebred.
As for your child being around a dog, it can be done if you are willing to supervise her with the dog all the time, no exceptions. I've seen several small pets hurt by children without them meaning to.
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