Is a Queen Elizabeth Pocket Beagle good with a children?

Are Queen Elizabeth Pocket Beagles easy to train?
the more information you can give me, the better!

Breed standards exist for a reason- and any of this "mutants" such as pockets, teacups, etc. are really runts being bred to runts. This is NOT healthy, and there can be many health issues with them.
Not to mention, these dogs are not being bred by responsible breeders. Health testing is not being done. If you want a small dog, please find one that is MEANT to be small. Going for a teacup, pocket, etc. will cause you nothing but heartache.

ADD: to Lillian's- your logic is flawed. Since no "reputable" breeder would intentionally breed these dogs, and only reputable breeders do health testiing. Reputable breeders would never intentionally breed a dog that was OUT of the breed standard- simply for money's sake.

19 Responses to “Is a Queen Elizabeth Pocket Beagle good with a children?”

  1. Just me says:

    There are no such things as 'queen Elizabeht pocket beagles' and if you had researched you would have known that. Do some actual 'homework'.
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  2. Jennifer T says:

    This isn't a breed. It is a cutesy made up designation to make you think their runty, ill-bred pups are worth a pile of money.
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    Rescuer, vet tech, groomer and show exhibitor of Shetland sheepdogs for 20 years.

  3. Captain Obvious says:

    This is not a breed.

    It was a "fashion" a century ago.

    No responsible breeder would label a dog like this.

    Which means, only bad breeders breed them. Which means that the dogs are more likely to be sick and have bad temperaments. Which means the dog is more likely to turn on your children.

    If you want a beagle, buy a beagle. From a good breeder, of course.

    National Beagle Club – info on Pocket Beagles: http://clubs.akc.org/NBC/NBC_FAQs.html#24.

    Pocket beagles were very, very small beagle popularized back in the days of Queen Elizabeth I. measuring 9 inches at the shoulder, and Paintings of the time show these beagles to be short-legged and somewhat pointy nosed. In the days of Edward II and Henry VIII, even smaller beagles, referred to as "glove beagles" because they were small enough to to be held in a gauntlet, were much in favor with the Royal Family. However, today, while there may be a few really small 13" variety beagles which may approach heights of around 10", they are not a breed or variety of beagle as such, and are not recognized by either AKC or UKC. Quite often beagles of this size are often only short by virtue of shortened legs caused by poor breeding or the dwarfing of chondodystrophy (see the Health problems page) with it's ensuing health problems. It must also be noted that many times it is impossible to predict mature size of a puppy, even when both parents are under 13". Birth weight may be a good indicator of final size, as is size at around 8 weeks, but they are no means reliable. If you want a beagle that will be small get one at around 9 months when the dog has pretty well finished growing, or from a breeder who has never produced an over 13". In this way you will have a much better chance of getting a small dog. However, be also aware that usually the smaller the beagle, the more hyperactive it is. But, there are exceptions.

    Looking for a Beagle? http://clubs.akc.org/NBC/looking_for_a_puppy.htm

    And don't forget http://www.petfinder.com . With that Beagle winning Westminster or whatever it was, tons of people ran out and bought them not understanding them and they are now ending up in shelters because they bay too much, dig too much, or have too much energy.
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  4. Katie H says:

    it depends on its behavior
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  5. Katie says:

    Beagles are usually good with dogs. And I'm not sure there's suc thing as a 'Pocket Beagle'. My beagles I've had were great with me and my younger nieces and nephew.
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    I have 1 and have had 2.

  6. Angry Y!A Nerd, Meaghan Edwards says:

    There is no such a thing. By buying from a "breeder" who breeds undersized runts, you are directly supporting the puppy mill industry.

    http://www.prisonersofgreed.org
    http://www.awarenessday.org
    http://www.puppymillrescue.com
    http://nopuppymills.com

    Check your local shelter, check sites such as Petfinder.org and Dogsindanger.com. Beagles are (unfortunately) very common in shelters and rescues.
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    10+ years of being a shelter volunteer, pet owner and lifelong animal lover

  7. dogsplusme says:

    Considering there is no such thing as a pocket beagle, Queen Elizabeth or not, I would say it depends on the age of the children.

    Young children that are well behaved and trained to respect a dog will do fine with most dogs. Toddlers should not be handling tiny dogs as they are delicate.

    As far as training a dog goes, you get out of a dog what you put into it. If you work hard and are consistent you can train any dog
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  8. Lynne says:

    Never heard of them but did a google search and came up with the link below:
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    http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/q/queenelizabethpocketbeagle.htm

  9. miaugh says:

    The "pocket beagle" was a breed that originated in medieval times, it is now extinct. Anyone breeding those now, are just marketing beagles that are sickly runts or mixed breeds. They are not recognized by regular kennel clubs as they don't conform to beagle breed standards.

    Standard beagles are recognized in 2 sizes, under 13 " and 13-15". Get a small beagle from a reputable breeder if you choose–although shelters are filled with adorable beagles, and you'd be saving a life if you adopted.

    Add: to Lillian's human, regardless of your personal opinion of "teacups", any dog breed who is purposely bred outside the breed standard, whether too big, too small, wrong coat or color—all are not bred by responsible breeders. And unless you work at a vet's, I doubt you've seen the poorly bred "teacup" specimens. The ones you've seen maybe be the fortunate ones who made it.
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    http://www.canismajor.com/dog/beagle.html#Phy

  10. ~Amerz~(bad dogs have more fun) says:

    A teacup beagle?

    Oh lordy b… Now I have seen it all. I would say that they are not a great dog to have around children for a number of reasons.

    A. teacup dogs are NEVER EVER EVER bred by responsible breeders. EVER. What does this mean to you? This means that you are buying a poorly bred dog that is the result of purposefully breeding sickly runts. If you have kids, chances are they want nice things from time to time. When you buy a teacup dog, you are signing yourself up for thousands in vet bills. Kiss those shiny new bikes goodbye, kids!

    B. In addition to the above, teacups are FRAGILE. That means bones will break with less strain then a normal sized dog. Kids aren't known to be careful. Thats like handing them glass and telling them not to drop it.

    c. Buying this dog is supporting puppy mills. Horrible places, and I would have one hell of a time buying a dog knowing the hell it's parents live through.
    http://www.stoppuppymills.org

    I just want to hammer this in: NO REPUTABLE BREEDER PRODUCES TEACUP DOGS. It would be tragic to bring a puppy home only to have it die in a short amount of time. I'm sure the kids would be devastated.

    yeah, OK Lillian's human…. please keep telling yourself that. the day I see a reputable breeder of teacup ANYTHING is the day I myself, am Queen Elizabeth. Breeding runts to runts is unethical, unsafe and in my own opinion creates ugly dogs in the long run. If you want a small dog, there are plenty to choose from that come in healthy sizes. I've seen plenty of teacups and they have all been sickly, fragile little runts. If you have one, and you enjoy it, then hooray for you. Enjoy your walking vet bills.

    Shoot, one last edit… They actually ARE extinct and breeders are breeding runts to recreate these dogs. This is directly from the horses mouth:

    This type of beagle is unfortunately extinct, it's genetic lines lost forever, its heritage left to the imagination .

    UNTIL NOW……the Queen Elizabeth Pocket Beagle Foundation has recreated that much desired little dog breed. While careful to preserve its inherently beagle nature we minaturized its big beagle size, making a Queen Elizabeth Pocket Beagle the perfect fit for most peoples' busy urban lifestyle.

    http://www.queenelizabethpocketbeagles.com/

    To me, that just doesn't serve enough of a purpose to qualify as responsible breeding. Judging from the pix on multiple websites(one claiming to be the breed club), i do not see a unified breed standard. And reputable breeders don't sell multiple mixed breeds. Bears?? what are those, now? I need a glass of wine stat!

    And thanks for the kind words, Alesi's Chis. I think you give me too much credit, but its nice to know I'm not crazy =)
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    want some sources????? Here ya go.

    http://www.myyorkiesecrets.com/teacup-yorkie-puppies/teacup-yorkies-what-you-need-to-know.php

    http://www.wakyonline.com/

    http://www.barkrescue.net/teacup.htm

    http://petcaretips.net/teacup-yorkies.html

    http://www.dogster.com/group/Teacup_dogs_2_pounds_of_health_problems_and_heartbreak-11440

  11. marci452 says:

    Unless you are talking about a stuffed toy, probably not. Poorly breed dogs are rarely good with children.
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  12. Lillian's Human says:

    In response to Amerz:

    "teacup dogs are NEVER EVER EVER bred by responsible breeders."

    Really? What about one who OFA's, CERF's, screens homes, makes potential buyers fill out an application, has a spay/neuter contract, sends home a health guarantee in writing, refuses to sell an unhealthy dog, has dogs that ABSOLUTELY contribute to the breed except extra small, and only feeds premium food, and only uses teacup as a descriptive term? Don't think they exist? Think again. I know a EXTREMELY reputable breeder who breeds "teacup" yorkies who does all of the above. Not only that, I plan on buying from her in the future.

    "teacups are FRAGILE."

    Again, rethink that. I've run into MANY "teacups" and talked to "teacup" owners, and NONE of them have had any health issues and ALL the dogs were visibly healthy. I'm not denying there are poorly bred unhealthy fragile teas, but that can be said of ALL dog breeds, even the "normal sized" ones. Personally, I've seen enough "teacups" to say all the "runts are automatically unhealthy and poorly bred" hype. I think it's someone's opinion that was spewed all over.

    "Buying this dog is supporting puppy mills."

    Of ALL the things, that is the MOST ridiculous you've said. Look up Bluewater Bay Yorkshire Terriers, read about them (well, try because they don't advertise that much due to a waiting list they have), and TRY and tell me they're a puppy mill. Meet the DOZENS of healthy and sound "teacups" out there and tell me how poorly bred they are. Again, this is hype, hype, hype. If you want a "pocket beagle" get one. Chances are, it will NOT die on you or be "unhealthy" and "fragile."

    "I just want to hammer this in: NO REPUTABLE BREEDER PRODUCES TEACUP DOGS."

    Again, that is pure LUDICROUS! How many teas have YOU met? Do you have any REAL experience with the breeders? Anything to back up that statement besides what some breed clubs (which are COMPLETELY opinionated and often contradict themselves) or web sites have told you? Nothing? Didn't think so. LOTS of breeders specialize in a smaller specimen.

    Now, to answer your question.

    Pocket beagles are VERY family oriented. They LOVE people and are very friendly. Unlike their closely related cousin the beagle, they don't have a very strong desire to hunt. They also bark less than most hounds, making them a better house pet. They are smart, calm, and very sweet. They are great with children and other dogs, but would be best without any other kinds of animals around besides dogs.

    They also hate being left alone. Separation anxiety is common. If you're going to be gone long, this may not be a god breed for you.

    They range from 4-25 lbs. They need regular exercise, at least a daily walk.

    And, no, they are NOT extinct and have a breed club. They are clearly NOT down-sized beagles as they obviously have different eyes and snouts. Here is a link to read more on pocket beagles.

    http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/q/queenelizabethpocketbeagle.htm

    Hope I helped!

    ADD: Thank you all for your less-than-lovely opinions and automatically assuming that I'm a stupid twit who knows nothing because of a size of dog I prefer.

    I do not condone any type of backyard breeding or puppy milling.

    While I see you all got pretty angry at my response, I failed to see any PROOF or knowledge that "teacups" are ALL unhealthy or from terrible breeders.

    When you can do something besides throw pointless insults at me, please do feel free to have an intelligent argument with me. And by intelligent, I mean not calling me a BYB lover or accusing me of spewing sh*t.
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  13. Foolish Pleasure Hates STUPID says:

    Pocket beagles, like any other smaller than regulation size, are just like any other runt. Poor quality dogs breed from even poorer quality dogs. Please look into getting a regulation size beagle, they come in two sizes, 13" and 15". I worked for a veterinarian for 24+ years and have seen many, many, poorly bred, sickly, animals whose owners thought they were getting teacup _________ (fill in the blank), that suffered many, serious health problems starting at just under 1 year of age, and expiring way berfore their time due to nothing more than suffering from genetic defects caused by being runts.
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  14. Swamp Poodles *WWTD* says:

    Breed standards exist for a reason- and any of this "mutants" such as pockets, teacups, etc. are really runts being bred to runts. This is NOT healthy, and there can be many health issues with them.
    Not to mention, these dogs are not being bred by responsible breeders. Health testing is not being done. If you want a small dog, please find one that is MEANT to be small. Going for a teacup, pocket, etc. will cause you nothing but heartache.

    ADD: to Lillian's- your logic is flawed. Since no "reputable" breeder would intentionally breed these dogs, and only reputable breeders do health testiing. Reputable breeders would never intentionally breed a dog that was OUT of the breed standard- simply for money's sake.
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  15. Lola Brown says:

    Eiw, lillian's humans response made me throw up a little in my mouth. I've never seen so much crap in one answer. Its pretty pathetic how gullibe people can be, isn't it. Just because you have two runty dogs doesn't mean anyone else should be as stupid as you and bring one home. Why knock on other posters for telling the person asking the question the truth? You and the winky BYB b*tch would be good friends. Your disgusting.
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  16. Alesi's Chi's says:

    Lillian-

    Every dog I've ever owned COMBINED could never produce the pile of sh*t you just spouted in their lifetime. Your 'source' will also give you the 'breed standards' of every mutt someone wants to slap a price tag on. Boy are you ever gullible.

    Amerz knows more about dogs than you EVER will. With your 5+ years of experience, I'd think that even a teenager with a love of tiny dogs wouldn't be so ignorant when faced with facts. I gues you just choose to stick your fingers in your ears & scream "I CAN"T HEAR YOU!!!!!!"

    ADD:
    Don't expect intelligent arguments to nonsense. You're a teenager with a couple of little dogs & far from knowledgeable despite what you've convinced yourself. I've been around & have studied my toy breed for 20+ years. I've shown dogs in the past & have been breeding now for 11 years. I've studied the breed standard extensively along with genetics. I know the consequence of breeding down from stsndards for size. NO 'teacup' dog comes without health problems. Their organs are just too crowded in their tiny bodies to function properly. It's nice that you consider yourself more knowledgeable than those who've spent their LIVES around dogs, because of course, between cheerleading practice, homework & proms, you've managed to surpass all our knowledge. I'm going to call you the next time I have a litter that produces a tiny runt, and you, with all your vast knowledge and experience can show me how to keep it alive long enough that I can sell it to you.
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  17. Juno & Me says:

    This is a vicious thread. While I know nothing about the Queen Elizabeth Pocket Beagle, I'd just like to comment that I have a Miniature Australian Shepherd who is perfectly healthy and the friendliest, most fun-loving dog I've ever had. Maybe I just got lucky, but I can say from my experience that not all mini's or toys are the horror stories I've read in this topic.

    ——————

    I guess I'll just assume all thumbs down are because you're not willing to accept that despite what you'd like to think, not all minis and toys are sickly, worthless dogs. I don't understand why everyone wants to fight about it — why can't people just give the answers the asker was looking for or keep their opinions to myself. Is it just to feel smarter, because I'm sure if the asker was wondering if the Queen Elizabeth Pocket Beagle was a legitimate breed that's what they would have asked.
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  18. Lacie says:

    Ummm…Lillian's human….I think you need to click on that link you provided…scroll down to origin…and read it again…this time…slowly…

    Btw: unless Lillian has morfed into a large male mutt from Oregon that likes to swim…you have the wrong dogster link on your profile page. just sayin'
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  19. Cindy says:

    Never heard of them. I would stick with your good old, normal 13 inch beagle.

    Tiny dogs are not known to be good with kids. They are too fragile.

    Any dog can be trained, it just takes effort and persistence on your part.
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